(Reposting because Substack erased my comment lol)
I appreciate the article, but I'm going to be that guy and say "It's just a plane bro." I'm a Sagan-level skeptic on this phenomenon and I personally believe it is an example of mass hysteria. My background: planespotter for a decade, pilot for over half that.
In my opinion people are,
1. Looking up and comprehending what's above them (at night) for the first time in a long time
2. Comprehending with motivated reasoning influenced by mass/social media
3. Attempting to comprehend using the poor imaging on their recording devices
This is all affected by the difficult task of perceiving moving objects at a far distance and high altitudes at night, which the human eye is very much not designed to do. Even commercial airline pilots can fall victims to visual illusions in darkness.
I personally have not seen any video or image that cannot be reasonably explained as commercial or private aircraft. Even the videos in the Skojec article very clearly are planes to me, and I have not seen a video that has unexplainable movement of the aircraft.
if we are to consider sightings of actual drones, private drone activity in the area is more common than one might think, which could explain any actual witness. Another possibility is the private testing of commercial eVTOL aircraft which are quite large and appear rather droney.
While this might seem like a cop-out, I believe the overall government "inaction" can be explained by the reality that nothing is actually going on. Why the media is running with it and why some politicians/bureaucrats are so eager to involve themselves in it is another story that I will not choose to pursue here.
While I welcome opinions and discussion to the contrary, I would personally file this one under "Nothing Ever Happens."
I do appreciate that whatever these aircraft/helicopters/drones/UFOs/demons may be, they are complying with the FAA regulations on navigation lighting and landing lights while operating in some of the busiest airspace in the country (N90 NYC TRACON). Wouldn't want the earthlings to fine them for a violation, now would they?
(I hope I don't come across as overly impassioned about this, but I know many people who fly in this area and I would rather that the public calms down before an individual tries to take matters into their own hands and injures someone, or worse.)
(Note, this comment is about the mass psychological phenomenon that is currently happening within the northeast. Drones/objects over military bases and nuclear sites, and the military recorded UAP incidents are a different phenomena that has more grounding in reality. Both have occurred for a much longer time than this current subject, but the separate topics are now overlapping in the zeitgiest.)
Hey, I appreciate the contrasting point of view. I don't know if I agree entirely but I also am open to any argument so long as there's more to it than just "I just so happen to know a guy who conveniently works for a three-letter agency". Naturally, I'm predisposed to be a Fox Mulder "I Want To Believe" type, and I usually make jokes at skeptics since I think a lot of the "professional" skeptics are often blinded by their own biases, but I also think the paranormal community has a bad habit of not listening to them at all and dismissing their counter-arguments out of hand as "disinfo agents" or "bad actors". One of the best books I've ever read on the supernatural is by John Michael Greer who, in the opening pages, says that no matter how convinced you may be that you're dealing with a preternatural phenomenon, if you're going to study it rationally you need to be willing to accept that there's a good chance that you're being ignorant to your own biases and there's a perfectly mundane, or at least strange but logical explanation that you may not want to accept. That's good advice a lot of people in that space do not take to heart.
Basically, many people on both sides are talking over each other, and I've never liked that. That's all to say that I think your insight, especially as an aviator, should be considered. My own pilot friend actually said something to your point about these aircraft abiding by FAA laws as evidence that, whether they're drones or planes, they aren't aliens. Given the increasing hysteria around this event, I don't think concerns that some idiot takes a shotgun and starts shooting at a low-flying Cessna two-seater are unfounded. What's more concerning is that I think trust in the government is at such an all time low that, even if Biden or Trump or anyone comes out and tells people, "Turns out they were just planes" or even, say, Amazon testing new delivery drones, a lot of people wouldn't believe them. However this plays out, and whatever the case may be, I have a feeling that means that people will be one of those that ends up in pop conspiracy theory books for a long time to come.
This is going to seem like a non sequitur at first, but run with me on this.
In 2000, Warner Bros released a made for TV movie tie-in for Batman Beyond, the near-future follow-up to Batman: The Animated Series. That movie was titled "The Return of the Joker" and, as you might guess, featured a central mystery which involved the aging Bruce Wayne and the new Batman, Terry McGinnis, trying to figure out who this villain claiming to be the Joker really is. The reason why it's such a mystery is because the Joker supposedly died well before Bruce finally hung up his cape and cowl, killed by the person whom he last used to try and break the Bat: the third Robin, Tim Drake, whom the Joker methodically tortured and turned into Joker Jr.
As you might guess, this revelation sent Bruce into a rage, which the Joker then further stoked by showing him the "home movie" styled footage he had Harley Quinn film of him torturing and administering serums to Robin over the course of weeks. Bruce starts beating on him harder than he ever has before, and once he gets the chance, grabs Joker by the throat and tells him, "I'll break you in two."
Joker's response is to laugh at him. He's gripping Batman's wrist with his right hand, and tells him, "Oh, Brucey, if you had the guts for that kind of fun you'd have done it years ago!" As he speaks, he removes his hand and holds it out and up, almost as if waiting to catch something or grab something behind him. Bruce is expecting this, as we see him watching that hand, ready to act on whatever Joker's about to do. Joker, knowing Batman as well as he does, also knows Bruce will expect this, and does a little word play by finishing up with the phrase, "I on the other hand..."
At that point, he whips out a switch blade from the LEFT sleeve of his coat, slices Bruce in the ribs, stabs him in the leg, then punts him off the stack of crates where he was holding Joker. He wasn't just saying he was willing to go far enough to kill, he was literally telling Bruce he was looking in the wrong place as part of his grand joke. And he did this because he knew Bruce wouldn't listen. He was too angry, too disgusted by what Joker did to a young teenage boy that he not only promised to protect, but also allowed to put his life in danger to fight crime in Gotham.
People could learn a lot from that minute or two of animation. One key lesson? No matter how smart you might be, with the right setup and the tugging of the right emotional strings, anyone - absolutely ANYONE - can be fooled.
Whatever else, we've been well trained to assume that whatever is happening in any given news-story, it isn't the official account given.
Of course one could say that this disbelief from a countless stream of lies can be manipulated, but thing is.
Once liars start, they have a hard time stopping.
By far the funniest development among alien believers, is the amount of them that once were begging for government disclosure and now cannot help but admit that the vague shuffling the USA officials make on the matter stinks to high heaven.
Going off of gut instinct, perhaps unrelated or connected to this current phenomena, this teller expects people pulling stuff around Christmas.
Holidays are a favourite for skulduggery.
Still, whatever is happening, it's certainly more entertaining than many an event.
"Disclosure" is one of those things that I'm not sure will ever happen, if only because it's too useful as a suggestion or possibility to ever use. Use it and it's gone, and you've also changed the game in unpredictable ways. Even now, a few major media sources are dangling that bone again, getting people worked up over "disclosure", of which Project Blue Beam is always quick to follow. I don't think it's any coincidence I've seen a lot of people put one or both on their bingo cards for "happenings" next year.
Strange happenings (not related to skulduggery) and Strange happenings (some desperate move) aren't mutually exclusive things.
On disclosure, this is a relevant thing to bring up.
Item one: Accepting the nature of the world as laid out by the bible.
Conclusion one: Demons, unclean spirits are real, even if all their particulars are unknown.
Item two: It's even a matter of public record that everyone and their dog was doing supernatural research.
Conclusion two: A number of governments or government agencies have non-human malevolent council.
Said things may or may not be larping as something they aren't.
Of course it's possible that a number of governments are in communication with the alien and demonic both. In either case, access is likely extremely restricted with most people out of the loop.
It'd be funny if aliens were real, but several governments passed demons off as being aliens.
Of course, a relevant bit of unknowable speculation would be, if the aliens are real, do they know about demons?
Doubtless someone has floated demon infestation as a reason for little official alien contact.
A lot of great points here! We just did an article on the drones as well, but we’re focused more on how the government (mis)handling of the drones degrades the America spirit 🇺🇸
"I’d also be lying if I said it wasn’t also very convenient that all of this was happening less than a calendar month before Trump is set to be sworn in as the 47th President of the United States, and kicked into high gear only after he clinched the election."
Yes, this is mighty suspicious, isn't it? As much as I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, and as much as I usually find false flag theories deeply contrived, I'll admit my gut reaction here was "planted by the outgoing government as an excuse to escalate the proxy war before Trump takes over". That would explain why they're so laidback about these things flying over military assets too. Needless to say, I really, really hope this isn't the case.
Either way, thanks for this summary, and the always useful warning to keep a cool head. Whatever this is, it's probably nothing good for regular people.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is an outright push to start another war in the next thirty days by drumming up anti-Russia/China/Norks/Iranian sentiment, and you can see their attempts to do so very blatantly elsewhere in the world (i.e. Syria), but... well, my personal theory that I didn't touch on in the article is that these drones are advanced but not preternatural technology that are being used by certain organizations in the government/military to case Trump. Apparently, he's done everything he can to keep his transition process out from prying eyes (i.e. they don't know who he's picked for what position until he publicly announces them, and the people in charge don't like not knowing those things). He refused any and all official White House assistance (like phones, laptops, even cars and security detail) in the transition and appears to be holding his cards close to his chest. These drones have been seen over Mar-a-Lago and Florida, and as mentioned his golf course and residence in New Jersey. I wouldn't be surprised if these drones are monitoring who's going in and out of Trump-affiliated places, casing them where they live, gathering data on them, and all the incursions into military space are just the "magicians trick" to get people to say, "It's foreign recon assets!"
I'm not 100% convinced I have it right, and I probably don't, but I also thing it's both well within the realm of possibility. Short of that, I think it's just certain agencies taking new toys for a spin and gauging public reactions to these new types of drones. Maybe a display of force? Again, it's almost not worth speculating on. But I can't help but do it.
Yeah, this is Regime fuckery. There's a lot of people inside a lot of Three Letter Agencies who absolutely will not allow the Bad Orange Man to take power peacefully. I will repeat what I've been saying since 2020, that a vote for Trump is a vote for civil war initiated by the Left, who now control the Regime. They will light everything on fire before they let go of power.
I've been seeing drones in a city nearby for about a year now. Big ones. But military convoys also come through all the time. I'm pretty sure they belong to the military. They could also belong to Google, for all we know.
And if they really do belong to another country? Well, unfortunately, it's not the most surprising thing to happen this year.
Not an inaccurate observation; I forget the massive hate boner for Iran, performative or genuine, is usually a thing you see more from the Republican side of the aisle. Makes sense that the idea would be pushed on and by mostly Fox News pundits (and refuted categorically by the Pentagon).
(Reposting because Substack erased my comment lol)
I appreciate the article, but I'm going to be that guy and say "It's just a plane bro." I'm a Sagan-level skeptic on this phenomenon and I personally believe it is an example of mass hysteria. My background: planespotter for a decade, pilot for over half that.
In my opinion people are,
1. Looking up and comprehending what's above them (at night) for the first time in a long time
2. Comprehending with motivated reasoning influenced by mass/social media
3. Attempting to comprehend using the poor imaging on their recording devices
This is all affected by the difficult task of perceiving moving objects at a far distance and high altitudes at night, which the human eye is very much not designed to do. Even commercial airline pilots can fall victims to visual illusions in darkness.
I personally have not seen any video or image that cannot be reasonably explained as commercial or private aircraft. Even the videos in the Skojec article very clearly are planes to me, and I have not seen a video that has unexplainable movement of the aircraft.
if we are to consider sightings of actual drones, private drone activity in the area is more common than one might think, which could explain any actual witness. Another possibility is the private testing of commercial eVTOL aircraft which are quite large and appear rather droney.
While this might seem like a cop-out, I believe the overall government "inaction" can be explained by the reality that nothing is actually going on. Why the media is running with it and why some politicians/bureaucrats are so eager to involve themselves in it is another story that I will not choose to pursue here.
While I welcome opinions and discussion to the contrary, I would personally file this one under "Nothing Ever Happens."
I do appreciate that whatever these aircraft/helicopters/drones/UFOs/demons may be, they are complying with the FAA regulations on navigation lighting and landing lights while operating in some of the busiest airspace in the country (N90 NYC TRACON). Wouldn't want the earthlings to fine them for a violation, now would they?
(I hope I don't come across as overly impassioned about this, but I know many people who fly in this area and I would rather that the public calms down before an individual tries to take matters into their own hands and injures someone, or worse.)
(Note, this comment is about the mass psychological phenomenon that is currently happening within the northeast. Drones/objects over military bases and nuclear sites, and the military recorded UAP incidents are a different phenomena that has more grounding in reality. Both have occurred for a much longer time than this current subject, but the separate topics are now overlapping in the zeitgiest.)
Hey, I appreciate the contrasting point of view. I don't know if I agree entirely but I also am open to any argument so long as there's more to it than just "I just so happen to know a guy who conveniently works for a three-letter agency". Naturally, I'm predisposed to be a Fox Mulder "I Want To Believe" type, and I usually make jokes at skeptics since I think a lot of the "professional" skeptics are often blinded by their own biases, but I also think the paranormal community has a bad habit of not listening to them at all and dismissing their counter-arguments out of hand as "disinfo agents" or "bad actors". One of the best books I've ever read on the supernatural is by John Michael Greer who, in the opening pages, says that no matter how convinced you may be that you're dealing with a preternatural phenomenon, if you're going to study it rationally you need to be willing to accept that there's a good chance that you're being ignorant to your own biases and there's a perfectly mundane, or at least strange but logical explanation that you may not want to accept. That's good advice a lot of people in that space do not take to heart.
Basically, many people on both sides are talking over each other, and I've never liked that. That's all to say that I think your insight, especially as an aviator, should be considered. My own pilot friend actually said something to your point about these aircraft abiding by FAA laws as evidence that, whether they're drones or planes, they aren't aliens. Given the increasing hysteria around this event, I don't think concerns that some idiot takes a shotgun and starts shooting at a low-flying Cessna two-seater are unfounded. What's more concerning is that I think trust in the government is at such an all time low that, even if Biden or Trump or anyone comes out and tells people, "Turns out they were just planes" or even, say, Amazon testing new delivery drones, a lot of people wouldn't believe them. However this plays out, and whatever the case may be, I have a feeling that means that people will be one of those that ends up in pop conspiracy theory books for a long time to come.
This is going to seem like a non sequitur at first, but run with me on this.
In 2000, Warner Bros released a made for TV movie tie-in for Batman Beyond, the near-future follow-up to Batman: The Animated Series. That movie was titled "The Return of the Joker" and, as you might guess, featured a central mystery which involved the aging Bruce Wayne and the new Batman, Terry McGinnis, trying to figure out who this villain claiming to be the Joker really is. The reason why it's such a mystery is because the Joker supposedly died well before Bruce finally hung up his cape and cowl, killed by the person whom he last used to try and break the Bat: the third Robin, Tim Drake, whom the Joker methodically tortured and turned into Joker Jr.
As you might guess, this revelation sent Bruce into a rage, which the Joker then further stoked by showing him the "home movie" styled footage he had Harley Quinn film of him torturing and administering serums to Robin over the course of weeks. Bruce starts beating on him harder than he ever has before, and once he gets the chance, grabs Joker by the throat and tells him, "I'll break you in two."
Joker's response is to laugh at him. He's gripping Batman's wrist with his right hand, and tells him, "Oh, Brucey, if you had the guts for that kind of fun you'd have done it years ago!" As he speaks, he removes his hand and holds it out and up, almost as if waiting to catch something or grab something behind him. Bruce is expecting this, as we see him watching that hand, ready to act on whatever Joker's about to do. Joker, knowing Batman as well as he does, also knows Bruce will expect this, and does a little word play by finishing up with the phrase, "I on the other hand..."
At that point, he whips out a switch blade from the LEFT sleeve of his coat, slices Bruce in the ribs, stabs him in the leg, then punts him off the stack of crates where he was holding Joker. He wasn't just saying he was willing to go far enough to kill, he was literally telling Bruce he was looking in the wrong place as part of his grand joke. And he did this because he knew Bruce wouldn't listen. He was too angry, too disgusted by what Joker did to a young teenage boy that he not only promised to protect, but also allowed to put his life in danger to fight crime in Gotham.
People could learn a lot from that minute or two of animation. One key lesson? No matter how smart you might be, with the right setup and the tugging of the right emotional strings, anyone - absolutely ANYONE - can be fooled.
Whatever else, we've been well trained to assume that whatever is happening in any given news-story, it isn't the official account given.
Of course one could say that this disbelief from a countless stream of lies can be manipulated, but thing is.
Once liars start, they have a hard time stopping.
By far the funniest development among alien believers, is the amount of them that once were begging for government disclosure and now cannot help but admit that the vague shuffling the USA officials make on the matter stinks to high heaven.
Going off of gut instinct, perhaps unrelated or connected to this current phenomena, this teller expects people pulling stuff around Christmas.
Holidays are a favourite for skulduggery.
Still, whatever is happening, it's certainly more entertaining than many an event.
'Iranian mothership'
Hilarious.
"Disclosure" is one of those things that I'm not sure will ever happen, if only because it's too useful as a suggestion or possibility to ever use. Use it and it's gone, and you've also changed the game in unpredictable ways. Even now, a few major media sources are dangling that bone again, getting people worked up over "disclosure", of which Project Blue Beam is always quick to follow. I don't think it's any coincidence I've seen a lot of people put one or both on their bingo cards for "happenings" next year.
Strange happenings (not related to skulduggery) and Strange happenings (some desperate move) aren't mutually exclusive things.
On disclosure, this is a relevant thing to bring up.
Item one: Accepting the nature of the world as laid out by the bible.
Conclusion one: Demons, unclean spirits are real, even if all their particulars are unknown.
Item two: It's even a matter of public record that everyone and their dog was doing supernatural research.
Conclusion two: A number of governments or government agencies have non-human malevolent council.
Said things may or may not be larping as something they aren't.
Of course it's possible that a number of governments are in communication with the alien and demonic both. In either case, access is likely extremely restricted with most people out of the loop.
It'd be funny if aliens were real, but several governments passed demons off as being aliens.
Of course, a relevant bit of unknowable speculation would be, if the aliens are real, do they know about demons?
Doubtless someone has floated demon infestation as a reason for little official alien contact.
A lot of great points here! We just did an article on the drones as well, but we’re focused more on how the government (mis)handling of the drones degrades the America spirit 🇺🇸
https://open.substack.com/pub/thewholetruthpublications/p/jersey-drones-and-the-downfall-of?r=4dg1kb&utm_medium=ios
"I’d also be lying if I said it wasn’t also very convenient that all of this was happening less than a calendar month before Trump is set to be sworn in as the 47th President of the United States, and kicked into high gear only after he clinched the election."
Yes, this is mighty suspicious, isn't it? As much as I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, and as much as I usually find false flag theories deeply contrived, I'll admit my gut reaction here was "planted by the outgoing government as an excuse to escalate the proxy war before Trump takes over". That would explain why they're so laidback about these things flying over military assets too. Needless to say, I really, really hope this isn't the case.
Either way, thanks for this summary, and the always useful warning to keep a cool head. Whatever this is, it's probably nothing good for regular people.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is an outright push to start another war in the next thirty days by drumming up anti-Russia/China/Norks/Iranian sentiment, and you can see their attempts to do so very blatantly elsewhere in the world (i.e. Syria), but... well, my personal theory that I didn't touch on in the article is that these drones are advanced but not preternatural technology that are being used by certain organizations in the government/military to case Trump. Apparently, he's done everything he can to keep his transition process out from prying eyes (i.e. they don't know who he's picked for what position until he publicly announces them, and the people in charge don't like not knowing those things). He refused any and all official White House assistance (like phones, laptops, even cars and security detail) in the transition and appears to be holding his cards close to his chest. These drones have been seen over Mar-a-Lago and Florida, and as mentioned his golf course and residence in New Jersey. I wouldn't be surprised if these drones are monitoring who's going in and out of Trump-affiliated places, casing them where they live, gathering data on them, and all the incursions into military space are just the "magicians trick" to get people to say, "It's foreign recon assets!"
I'm not 100% convinced I have it right, and I probably don't, but I also thing it's both well within the realm of possibility. Short of that, I think it's just certain agencies taking new toys for a spin and gauging public reactions to these new types of drones. Maybe a display of force? Again, it's almost not worth speculating on. But I can't help but do it.
Yeah, this is Regime fuckery. There's a lot of people inside a lot of Three Letter Agencies who absolutely will not allow the Bad Orange Man to take power peacefully. I will repeat what I've been saying since 2020, that a vote for Trump is a vote for civil war initiated by the Left, who now control the Regime. They will light everything on fire before they let go of power.
Ah, that sounds very plausible too, and much more comforting than the false flag theory. Let's keep our fingers crossed you're right.
This social panic seems entirely top down and mass media based.
Thanks for the recommendation!
And thank you for covering the UAP story, your articles were of great help making sense of all the conflicting narratives floating around out there.
I've been seeing drones in a city nearby for about a year now. Big ones. But military convoys also come through all the time. I'm pretty sure they belong to the military. They could also belong to Google, for all we know.
And if they really do belong to another country? Well, unfortunately, it's not the most surprising thing to happen this year.
Not an inaccurate observation; I forget the massive hate boner for Iran, performative or genuine, is usually a thing you see more from the Republican side of the aisle. Makes sense that the idea would be pushed on and by mostly Fox News pundits (and refuted categorically by the Pentagon).
It is always 1979 to some people.