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Joseph Hex's avatar

I'm struggling to think of a single child actor who made it out of the Disney/Nickelodeon gauntlets without being mentally disturbed in some way. I'm talking a kid that made some coin as a tween/teen, then left the scene and became normally adjusted human being.

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Since I pretty much only knew him as the iCarly guy, with an awareness he had a bunch of other successful related shows, it's been interesting to get this glimpse into his beginnings. Also intriguing how hard it is to verify some of these details about stuff like Harvard, even in our amply documented age. Goes to show how tough historians must have it, haha. Also appreciate your even-handedness here rather than condemning based on hearsay.

I don't really have much more to add, since this is unfamiliar territory to me for the most part and I'm just enjoying following along with the "story". Instead I'll indulge some tangents:

"Probably because it takes effort no one is willing to give, and talent no one in the industry has." Damn. Another one that hits hard, at least for me. It's not that I was unaware, but it's sobering to stop and think how much our culture has declined just in my lifetime. There really seems to be this feeling of not even trying anymore. Even if it's weird considering how fierce the competition is to get into this industry in the first place.

The "typecasting vs character actor" thing is also interesting. Should ever actor ideally be able to play any role, or is it okay and even commendable to specialize? How much of an actor's personality goes into the part, anyway? I've never acted myself, but there's something endlessly fascinating about this job for me. Has to be one of the strangest professions around. And some of the considerations remind me of writing fiction, like the "generalist vs staying your niche" thing. I guess writing a novel is kind of like acting for an audience of yourself. Or at least I think you have to be in the same headspace as an actor, or a related one.

Which, to bring it back to Schneider, made me wonder what it'd be like to act in and write for a show at the same time. Don't think that's a very common situation? Especially not when it's just one of the regular cast and not a thing where the whole show is a vehicle for the main actor/writer.

"Creepy is not a gender-exclusive adjective and we, as a society, really need to remember that."

Hmm. In one sense you're obviously right. I suppose the really ugly elephant in the room here is that a man could theoretically dispense with the niceties and use force to get what he wants, or at least a woman always has to be cognizant of that potential threat, in a way men usually don't. (Which is probably one reason some straight men feel so intensely threatened by gay men and the prospect of finding themselves considered as sexual objects when they have no interest of reciprocating, but that's another story.)

Or: if a woman is a creep, it usually doesn't have any real consequences, but the other way around the consequences can go all the way up to lethal in the worst-case scenario, with a lot of unpleasant stations in-between. That said, you're right that there's a lot of unfortunate double standards hanging around here, both in the sense of painting all men as potential dangers and women as both helpless and uninterested in sex by default, while men always want it.

On a lighter note: I've started and scrapped a few drafts of my Adventures of Pete-related thing, and I want to reiterate that I appreciate the craftsmanship that goes into these essays. Telling an engaging story through non-fiction rather than cataloguing opinions is hard, even without adding humor to the mix. Not that I thought otherwise, but again, I have more experience with fiction, so it's humbling to really see it up close.

One of my pet peeves is how little people seem to respect writing as a craft. Maybe I've just become jaded after spending so much time in various fiction critique circles, but I get the sense a lot of people think they can slap any old thing together just because they know how read and write. I've seen so many people doing the equivalent of, say, playing the guitar for a couple weeks and then performing in front of an audience. Yes, the bar of entry is very low, but the ceiling is just as high as in other art forms. I dare anyone to compare Dan Brown to Richard Powers and tell me otherwise.

Then again, as you've shown us more than once in these essays, it's not like the professionals seem to take it much more seriously, haha. Maybe that's one of our core problems: as a society we're simply not serious about anything anymore. Or to dust off another James Howard Kunstler* quote: "anything goes and nothing matters". Doesn't turn an immediate profit? Forget it.

*Drawing on his quotes makes me sound like a bigger fan of the guy than I actually am. I think he writes very well but is also basically a crank, or maybe a grifter in his own way. I'd consider him more an entertainer than a serious pundit, like a fire and brimstone preacher of the deep-green set. He does score the occasional hit, though.

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