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RosTy's avatar

Opened this immediately. Your brony articles were some of the first I read, so it was exciting to see one in the inbox.

Your breakdown of the 4-chan mlp history specifics was really helpful. It's interesting that you brought up Reddit as the alt migration - it doesn't seem to have a lasting impact on there the way that 4chan did, or at least, it seems barely active on Reddit today. Also didn't realize until this post that Equestria Daily was founded by someone from 4chan, but compared to what you described, it was definitely a more family friendly platform for a show that really should have always been family friendly.

Your current stance (if I'm reading correctly) is that the 4chan base and unsavory tendencies retained their undercurrent throughout the fandom, which led to the extremist connections today. It sounds like you're going into a mini-arc in this brony analysis/history saga, which I'm excited to follow.

I'm wondering if you'll explore at all how/if Equestria Daily and the fandom eventually growing on more "moderated" platforms like Youtube helped to stave off the dark side's dominance for a time. I remember that after the third season ended (2013), some of the casual fandom stopped watching and many others joined, meaning they hadn't been there for the 4chan cacophony. There was also a year-long hiatus in the show from 2014-2015, during which Rainbow Rocks (the best of the anthropomorphized mlp movies) released, and season 4 and 5 (which released before and after the hiatus) were some of the most highly regarded for fandom and series significance. I don't know how much that would have affected the culture, but it had to have affected it in some way. And yet the fandom began to break off and get more toxic in later seasons despite the intense community camaraderie of that middle period. An ebb and flow experience where the dark side receded enough to make it arguable for a time that it "gave the community a bad name" instead of being the dominant culture.

Side note, but would you ever feel inclined to dedicate an article to homestuck? Its digital footprint is vast but in a way that seems distinct from what mlp was doing, and it's difficult for me to get to a concrete explanation to what it "was" because it also seems to be based on a version of the internet that just doesn't exist any more.

Thanks for writing these!

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Very glad to see this series continue! As one of those Brony-to-right-wing-extremist-pipeline people, I'm finally feeling seen after all these years.

I think I first heard of all these things a little after /mlp/ was created, but my first exposure to "brony" content was the pony.mov videos (I still find some things from them funny to this day).

Highlights of my brony career include getting in on the ground floor of the first edition print of Fallout Equestria and the summer of love that was /mlpol/, a period I have no doubt you'll be visiting for this series.

Elsewhere you and a commenter drew out a comparison with Homestuck, essentially with the bronies deviating right due to their origin on 4chan and the homies (homestuckers?) deviating left due to their origin on Tumblr. I wonder if this is really any surprise- if 4chan itself attracted right-inclined people and Tumblr left-inclined (and mostly all neurodivergent to boot), then the paths taken by respective members of each fandom seem to track with the destiny of their site of origin - 4chan into a rightist mono/pol/ly and Tumblr as its transed reflection. Therefore, we also have the rare Right Homestucker and the (probably far less rare) trans brony. I attribute the latter almost exclusively to furries who radicalized from sexual paraphilia due to pure goonerism (and demonic influence, but nobody's ready for that conversation).

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